My husband's stroke

Since my husband had a stroke just 14 weeks ago I have been reading posts on this forum and would like to share our journey so far.
He spent 13 weeks in the stroke unit of our local hospital, now since last Friday he’s in a nursing home for 4 weeks in an assessment bed before coming home to be looked after by me.
He has left sided weakness, incontinence, speech difficulties and cognitive impairments.
The rehab team were unable to further improve his walking, he can use a gutter frame with 2 people to support him but his left leg drags and his concentration is poor, he’s easily distracted and tires after a few steps.
His speech is often poor and I have great difficulty in understanding what he’s trying to say which causes him deep frustration and anger.
He’s able to write things down but his writing is usually as muddled as his speech so makes no sense, we try to use an app which the speech therapist recommended but it’s not working well for conversation, mostly just basic commands or requests.
When he’s discharged from the nursing home he will need a full care package, our family are not close enough to be able to help so I do worry about the enormity of the 24/7 caring role ahead of me.
The most difficult of his symptoms for our family and primarily me to deal with have been the psychological ones.

He began in weeks 2-3 post stroke being very distrusting and fearful of night staff, it was aweful to witness, over the following few weeks he had to be frequently restrained by hospital security and given sedative injections, this became a nightly occurrence and further fuelled his distrust and paranoia. This also happened during the day eventually, with him being aggressive towards day staff and some patients.
He was referred to the deprivation of liberty and safeguarding team at that time as it was felt he was unable to make his own decisions.
He was seen by the psychiatrist who eventually managed to calm his paranoia with medication and that did settle down. The medication had to be titrated slowly until the required dose was achieved so it took about a month.
During this time though he became extremely hostile towards me, after 30 years of having a funny, kind, loving and trusting husband, he changed and became distrusting and paranoid, he’s still now sure in his mind that I’m having an affair, he calls me the worst names and uses language towards me that he never has before and has called me evil.
My heart breaks still every time this happens, I know I shouldn’t take what he says personally, but how can I not, when the words are coming from my husband?

Our family have thought it has been because of him feeling frustrated about being in hospital and that when he comes home his brain will calm and these episodes will go away.
Now after a challenging first few days in the nursing home he appears to be calming but continues to have outbursts of anger which just come from nowhere.
He’s often tearful and looks really sad.
The staff are lovely and are fully supporting me to get him home.
They have told me they are seeing cognitive problems over the few days he’s been there.
I rang the ward yesterday because the community physio team have not seen him yet and I was told they wouldn’t see him whilst he’s in the home as they felt it wasn’t the most effective use of their resources, after me asking they have agreed to see him next week so a report can be made for the social worker in his assessment prior to discharge home.
I’m really not sure how I will manage, I’m 67 so retired and have the usual decreased energy levels and aches and pains that come with getting older, my husband is 77.
Like so may people n this forum, our lives have changed completely but how do people manage to take care of themselves through it all?
Any advice will be greatly appreciated Thankyou.

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Welcome, I am sure you never imagined you would have cause to join us. I have no experience of your situation, but have enormous sympathy and admiration for all carers.
The advice I would give is to take any help you are offered from an hour off to get out for a coffee to a cooked meal. Most people want to help so let them.

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Hi @Dianes and welcome to the community. Sorry tohear of your husbands stroke & all the difficulties it is causing you both.

It is good to hear that some of the behaviours are settking now he is out of the hospital environment & fingers crossed they continue toimprove. Have a look at this leaflet re emotional changes post stroke. Also give the Stroke Association helpline a call as they will be able to point you in the dire tion of where you can get support for you as well as your husband.

Emotional changes

0303 3033 100

It is very important that you look after yourself too. Easier said than done I know. Have you got friends & neighbours that might sit with him for an hour whilst you pop out? Whilst the carers are there use the time to rest a bit.

Before they discharge him home make sure everything he may need is in place including referrals for therapies, physio etc, aids & adaptations around the house etc. If you don’t think it will be safe for him to be at home then tell them so. Once he is home it is so much harder to get things youmight need put in place.

Your GP surgery shoukd offer support for carers so make sure they’re aware you are his carer. You may want to look at local support groups too

Support Groups

I’m sure others will be along soon with more advice & help.

Best wishes

Ann

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Hi @Dianes

Welcome to the community, I’m sorry to hear about your husbands stroke and the difficulties you’re both going through.

I would echo what @Mrs5K has said about calling our helpline, they can point you in the right direction for things that may help but they can also just be a listening ear too, should you need it.

I’m sure some of our other members who are carers will be along shortly to offer some more advice for you. In the meantime, if you need anything whilst you’re using the Online Community, please don’t hesitate to tag me using the @ symbol and my username.

Anna

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Diane, hi
I was the same ; and for good reason ; they’d chat all night long, and generally behave badly ; stroke-patients are unable to raise a complaint (confusion, brain fog, etc.)

I am guilty of that too… it’s an expression of fear

…could be worse!

I have no idea how I, personally, got over it. Just buy time until the body heals, and hang in there. God bless

Roland
https://www.youtube.com/@Start-Again-xyz

ps. if you watch “44 days” in which I look quite upbeat (I wanted to give that message) , just know that I was crying and screaming the rest of the time. I told my wife she might be better off divorcing me… luckily, she would have none of it

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Hi @Dianes.
Very similar position to you.
Exhausting but I try my best.
Very emotional and tearful husband.
I am trying to take care of myself and have just stopped sleeping on sofa and gone back to my own bed while husband sleeps downstairs in hospital bed. It has taken me 7 weeks.
My next aim is to get back to a keep fit class - just an hour a week but so far impossible.

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@trisha2
Thankyou for responding to my post, it is simply reassuring to hear that you have managed 7 weeks, and that you have gone back to sleeping upstairs.
I hope that’s working out ok for you and your husband.
Did you ever feel worried that you wouldn’t cope? I feel determined to do whatever it takes but find myself feeling overwhelmed by the enormity of the situation.
Today my husband was sad and tearful throughout my visit, I felt afraid to leave him tonight as he’s so anxious.
I stopped going to my keep fit class too after he had his stroke, it used to be really important to me but I haven’t had the time or energy.
It would be nice to think one day it will resume.
Please let me know how that goes.
Family have really taken a back seat, they visit us as often as they can but I don’t have time to drive over to see them any more. I’m sure theyunderstand but it is the whole family that is affected too. Xx

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Well done @Trisha2 for taking care of yourself. This is very important as you cannot do this all by yourself without adversely affecting your own health.

I am sure you will be able to go back to your keep fit class and again this will do you good.

Namaste|
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Hello @Dianes.

Welcome to the community and thank you for sharing your journey with us.

There is a lot going on and you should be proud of what has been achieved so far. What you are doing is not at all easy and there are no out of the bottle solutions. Almost certainly your case is very specific to your own environment and personal (you and your husband and family’s) situation. Also where you live will possibly further make it more specific as stroke care and support varies across the country.

As you have been reading posts on this forum, you will likely have seen the importance of looking after yourself so that you can look after your husband.

Hopefully, you have got some agreed care plan based on your husband’s assessed care needs. This care plan should be something you are comfortable with as I understand it you are the primary carer.

A few things I would hope have been considered

  • Proper assessment of your husband’s care needs including equipment required and home adaptations required
  • level of care and carers e.g. who will help with the care and how often
  • Nursing care e.g. if District nurse visits will be required

With regards to changes in your husband’s behaviour, especially towards you, this can be quite hard to take at first but I would suggest you should not take it as personal. I don’t think your husband is deliberately doing this, but rather the stroke has affected his ability to control some of his emotions and behaviour.

The analogy I would make is perhaps thinking of someone with Tourette syndrome where the person is unable to control what they are saying (sorry if I have got this wrong) or maybe perhaps when someone has had too much to drink and they “relax” and maybe say things they might not say if sober. Maybe not a great attempt to explain, but what I am trying to say is don’t take your husband’s changes personally, as hurtful as they might seem.

Finally, you are not on your own. Please do reach out - there is plenty of help out there, but sometimes you might have to a) find it and b) fight for it. So examples would be carers for your husband to make sure they fully meet his care needs, respite care for you as you need relief and time for yourself.

Getting help for yourself around the house e.g. someone to come and help with the cleaning etc. You can’t do all this by yourself.

Getting financial help - I expect someone has explained these things to you and worked out who or how your husbands care will be paid for. There are benefits that you can claim such as Attendance Allowance for your husband and Carer’s Allowance for yourself if you are the main carer.

Other benefits such as Council tax relief etc. may be available depending on your personal circumstances. You can speak to Age UK, Citizen’s Advice etc as well as using online benefits calculators including that on the Gov.Uk website.

I wish you and your husband all the best. Take care.

Namaste|
:pray:

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Thankyou for all replies, it was nice to receive them and some great advice, my husband should be coming home in 9 days if the care package/ equipment is here and set up.
He’s really been desperately sad in the nursing home, the staff are absolutely lovely and it’s a lovely home, but he says he feels trapped .
I can certainly understand that and am just counting the days now for him to be home.
His hostility towards me has reduced over the last 2weeks, I’m now finding it’s mostly happening when he’s fatigued or having periods of agitation when his anger just comes from nowhere.
I guess there will be a lot of readjustments to make once he’s home, it feels like we’re going to be starting a very different life together.
I feel so happy that he’s coming home finally and absolutely scared to death that I might not cope with being his carer.
In the next few days I must research the financial aspect of everything, I have spent a lot of our savings on a wet room and having a ramp made, a tumble drier and various other things which we’ll need but have no idea how much a care package will cost or if we can claim any benefits.
This is a very steep learning curve indeed!

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Hi @Dianes

I’m pleased progress is being made and that there is less hostility towards you now. It definitely will be a readjustment when your husband comes home, make sure you’re looking after yourself too.

You mentioned about researching the financial help you could get, I would suggest giving our Stroke Support Helpline:0303 3033 100 a call. They have a wealth of knowledge and I’m sure would be able to help with any questions you have about this.

I hope all goes well with your husband coming home.

Best wishes,
Anna

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@Dianes good to hear things are improving for you both & there is less hostility.

In relation to financial assistance have a look at The Citizens Advice website as they have a lot of info & a benefits calculator. It sounds like your husband might ge entitled to PIP too so have a look at applying for that.

Things will be different for you both but you’ll soon settle into a routine. Make sure you take time out for you too. That’s very important. Even if it just an hour for a coffee or chat with friends. It all helps.

Hope the discharge home goes well.

Best wishes

Ann

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My husband came home and we had 27 nights together before it became an unsafe placement.
The home care team were polite and kind but I felt not good and he didn’t want their interventions, he only wanted me to help him and would become anxious and breathless when I left the room.
I found myself cancelling more visits than we used.
He always needed the help before or after they came despite me trying to change the time of some visits.
He needed help day and night and hardly slept.
His transfers improved when he wasn’t fatigued and we often did well, however when he was tired they were almost impossible for me to do on my own.
He developed neuropathic pain in his left arm and hand, community physio tried hard to relieve it with massage and paracetamol, it worsened so the gp recommended codeine phosphate alongside paracetamol and massage, after 5days of constipation and worsening pain and agitation he was given amitryptyline which after 3weeks now seems to be lessening his pain.
His agitation and anger were worse at night when he would kick the bed and bed rails wanting to get out, he would shout and cry out for hours, I was always there, afraid to leave his side in case he hurt himself, during one of his daytime outbursts he fell whilst trying to get out of his wheelchair in anger, I ran and managed to break his fall but injured my shoulder and back.
Thankfully he was ok and his daughter was able to help me get him up from the floor.
She was en route to visit us at the time.
After this I asked family for help as I was struggling with too little sleep and felt exhausted, help was too little too late, my shoulder and back were not recovering because I continued to transfer him and eventually I just could not continue.
I know family help was there in that crisis but it’s not a long term option at all, everyone works , has families of their own and live too far away.
It’s a very brief resume of those 27 days and nights but so much happened in that short time, he was happy to be home but never seemed to be content, couldn’t sit for more than a few minutes, we were unable to have a conversation due to his speech loss, the team can’t explain why his speech is affected as it’s not normally the case in L side weakness.
I feel like I’ve let him down now, he is in a local care home and cries every day pleading to come home. We are both heartbroken and devastated.
The home is amazing but too expensive to be a permanent option.
I’m self funding as we already had a 4 week funded placement between his hospital care and coming home, this was due to his aggression towards me, we are not allowed another funded placement.
Even if he is awarded nursing care funding the top up is £600 per week which is unaffordable for us.
So at the moment I’m using his savings which will be down below the threshold in a couple of weeks.
I’m starting to think I must try him at home again but worry that it will fail again.
I remember feeling claustrophobic, I couldn’t leave his side, even to have a shower, the dog didn’t have walks, I felt lonely and isolated and like my life was on hold.
What do other people do in this situation, I’m trying to make sense of everything, his stroke was just before Christmas so 5 months now, I hoped that I could care for him at home and we could eventually go out in the car and have a comfortable slow paced life together, is there an alternative to a care home placement, more affordable but equally more effective than the care package which really didn’t work for us at all?

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@Dianes firstly I would like to say well done to you for giving it a try. It sounds like you did an amazing job in very difficult circumstances. As you rightly say though you can not continue like that and given how he is it sounds like he is in the right place right now.

Unless he has improved since being in the care home in my humble opinion I don’t think having him home again is the right thing right now otherwise you may just find that you end up in the same situation again. But that doesn’t mean that in time he can’t come home. 5 months is not long in stroke recovery terms so there is every hope for improvement yet.

Sadly, As far as I am aware all care options are expensive. You could try giving the Stroke Association helpline (0303 3033 100) a call. They should be able to talk you through the options that might be available to you. Speak to your GP too & see what they suggest & what support they can offer you too.

Sending you my best wishes.

Ann

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Hello @Dianes. I am sorry things did not work out at home, but you know you tried your best and you should give yourself credit for that. Clearly, this is not something you can do on your own and if your husband is not receptive to community carers, trying to do it on your own is not very realistic.

I agree with the advice Ann, @Mrs5k has given and hope that your GP and care support team will help you and your husband a care package the works best for you.

:pray:

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