Long dark tea-time of the soul

I feel I need at this point to let out my thoughts on this matter. I have joined the MacMillan forum page to deepen the discussion I need, but wanted to share a little here as my damaged brain tries to comprehend the bigger picture, the woods if you like. I feel it is time.

Last night, or rather early this morning at 5 am, while I was still trying to sleep, my phone pinged a message alert. I thought it might have been my friend in China or another friend in Oz and I was going to ignore it until I had the chance to awake from some much needed sleep I couldn’t reach. Perchance, I thought I would check it just to sate my curiosity. It was a message from my second eldest son.

Two years ago he was diagnosed with sarcoma cancer, a rare soft tissue cancer that affects less than 1% of adult cases but more common in children at 15% of cases. This means that treatment options are limited and one of the only promising treatments is CAR T-cell therapy, not readily available or likely because an exact donor must be found. He had all the usual radiation/Chemo and surgery to repel the cancer, however, last year it had spread to his lungs and was deemed terminal. He was put on a medication that would shrink the cancer throughout the year.

He is seventeen. Has raging teenage hormones and has been diagnosed with Autism, so you can imagine the predicament. So, he messages me, understandably angry and disappointed about everything in his life. This will be his last year, maybe weeks, maybe months. He spends everyday in bed and in pain. All treatment has stopped and the medical profession has told him he just needs to survive as best he can.

I messaged him for about two and a half hours, couldn’t be too emotional as his Autistic personality doesn’t register emotion. It was a difficult conversation. I knew this was coming but had blocked it, blanked it. My emotional response often wild and manic, his blunted and muted. It had all left me feeling dissociated and alienated. I have reached out for some grievance counselling, that’s the best I can do at this time. It’s difficult to put one’s own troubles aside after having a stroke, as I have only in the last five years begun to deal with my own mortality let alone my son’s. My brain is twitching with exhaustion trying to make sense of something I have always felt I had sense of. So many conflicting thoughts. I know I need to now open up about it, I have buried my head in the sand for too long.

Frankly, I am in a bit of a daze. Talking to people I know is not really satisfying and potentially feels upsetting. Writing is better. Alone with the alphabet as my guide. I feel like commandeering a ship and sailing away as a lone pirate on the choppy seas, the endless horizon the only metaphor for existence. That aside, I will continue over the next few weeks or months registering my emotions and how my damaged brain handles them. It’s not making sense of anything right now, I suppose that is natural.

Since I was three, when my mother died of cancer, I feel like I have moved through life like an existential will-o’-the-wisp, gathering wisdom but never knowing quite where to put it or what do with it as by all accounts I feel common humanity tends to be at odds with itself and no homeostasis is in sight. Perhaps this is why so many people cling to the concept of nirvana or the equivalent. In any case, just thought I’d share my current circumstances with the forum as over time, I’ve appreciated the special place such a platform can be to those of us in need of sharing our thoughts and engaging, albeit, by the written form.

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I’m glad that you can find an outlet in writing. I and others will be reading, so you won’t be screaming into the void. I can’t think of anything more to say that doesn’t sound trite. Best wishes to you, your son and all who love him.

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Writing is better. I’ve spoken to people close to me but it seems they think, while he’s dealing with this emotional problem, I think I might dump some extra emotional baggage on top just to weigh him down, see how his legs hold up. I am eternally glad for Annie though, this ancient feline bond with humanity, is something to be treasured.

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Well done Rupert - this is the way to go.
Do this daily, put your thoughts down, here on this forum or if you prefer in a journal book.
Do not hold it in.

I wish peace and comfort for you and your son.

I hope you don’t think this is inappropriate, but you may know I am a big fan of Music as a healer and therapeutic aid and I have many songs for many occasions. When I find myself in a place where you’re at right now, and I wouldn’t want to pretend how that might feel, I listen to this song.

Sending you peace and love
:pray: :people_hugging:

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I am not easily pricked. My close cerebellar stroke friend is the most inappropriate person I know :joy:. I appreciated the song but it is not my cup of tea, my mood at the moment reflects a song I turn to at dark times but can’t post to the forum, I feel. It is by Ian Dury and has two words, the last being Ada. I’ll let you work that one out :joy:

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Thanks Rupert - got it.
Ada = Nora

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Keep typing your feelings we are all listening. It is an awful thing you & your son are going through & no words can make it easier.

We all cope differently in these times and you must do what is right for you.

I wish you both lots of strength.

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Aye, it is awful. I asked him, what are your thoughts about it all? He responded, I don’t care. It makes my heart sink.

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Annie wants to win the competition for the best circle…so my daughter says :laughing:

Lorraine

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I was hoping for a Yin Yang but she just doesn’t have the right blotches.

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My heart goes out to you. A truly awful situation to be in and I am sure your son is really struggling with it too but just doesn’t know how to express it. Life can be horrid at times and for someone so young to be in that position is heart breaking. I hope you both find the strength you need to get through the next weeks / months. I always remember my husband saying to me when my dad was terminally ill with cancer that you need to get to the end point with no regrets. He had some when his dad passed and he’s always found that hard. I know it’s not the same situation, but I held that thought in mind all the way through my dad’s battle and made sure there were none.

Sending you lots of strength and love.

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Keep writing - it is wonderfully healing because you can go back and tidy the words up. The first time all the raw stuff comes out, the next time you can edit it and make any changes you feel are desirable. Nobody can help their personality, so how others react is down to them. We are here, and listening. Cat strength is good, given honestly and with no bias. The ams of the cosmos are long and stretch warmly around us.

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Hi @Rups

I’m sorry to read about son, life can be so harsh. I’m wishing you both the strength to get through the next few weeks/months.

Keep writing, it’s always good to get things out of your head and I’m pleased that you can use this space to reflect on how you’re feeling.

Best wishes to both you and your son.

Anna

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Hello Rups. It has been a long time.I’m so glad I was able to see this post.

I believe you were the first person I got to know here and have conversation’s with.

We have with our family situations and many of the ways we have been affected physically and emotionally. The ups and downs have been rough and yet we are still here.

It hurts me to know you are going through this very painfulIt hurts me to know you are going through this very painful experience, that navigating is even harder due to your sons autism and your own brain injury.

For anyone, we want to help fix or cure any problem… to realize we have no way of changing the thing we want to fix or cure it’s purely unacceptable.

I do have a question. And that is, if money would help him get to a place that could give him this treatment that might help? Gofundme is great for that.

And now I have another question. If having the money for that treatment came to be, would your son even want it?

Especially because he is autistic, and you are not, it is very hard to understand how he thinks, and why his thoughts might differ from neurotypicals.

It is questionable whether I am autistic … my scores in testing are very slightly above the scale. It might make some difference, but then again, maybe it makes none. I brought this up if only because you seem i’m very bothered by your son’s reply to your question of his thoughts. I do know quite a few people to our neurodiverse. In my experience, the way we think is based in reality, with very little emotion involved. It would help if he could explain to you how he came to his conclusion. I have often answered in the same way he has two of the same question. And it does upset other people who are neurotypical, however, to me, the answer just makes sense. Based on the reality of what is or isn’t possible, and what process those things entail. How I feel about it is not that’s something I would think about. I may say I feel a certain way, but that’s really only because it’s the words that other people use.

I seem to remember you have mentioned some apathy. I have often experienced feelings of apathy, since stroke. I know it is apathy.

Because itI know it is apathy.

Because it always hurI know it is apathy.

Because it always hurtsI know it is apathy.

Because in the past it has always hurt me to see others in pain or suffering in some way. Now, it’s just life being life. The good, the bad, the ugly, and I just accept it.

So this is my way of trying to help and i’ve expressing my care for you and for your son who we have spoken of in the past, when he was 12 or 13.

Because I don’t personally know your son or how he thinks, i don’t know if I would be sad for his answer or happy. I suppose it would depend on how he meant it. When I saw it, the first thing I thought of was me saying the exact thing to my sister and a friend. They also were not happy with me and told me they never wanted to hear that again. It really didn’t change my feelings, but I haven’t repeated it to them.

I am still here but I still don’t care. If I were

HavinIf I were

Having aIf I were

Having a heart attack, or thought I was having another stroke, I would not call for help. This has been a hard journey and at this point i’m not getting better, it’s just getting harder. The pain is worse, it’s harder to breathe, if I stick around much longer, I will just be spending my life in the hospital or nursing home, with absolutely no autonomy. Not to mention, it would eat up even more of what I have left too late for my kids.

And i’m not telling you that because I feel sorry for myself. I don’t. I do get to live by myself, except my two cat loves. I just wanted you to know how my mind thinks about it. I do I have one more issue.Your son doesn’t, quite at least I don’t think he does. I have had the experience of being so close to death.I might as well have been there. It was not scary, it was actually calming and felt safe. Or perhaps that was sedatives. I either way, I am much less afraid of that, than I am tired of fighting.

Much love to you and to your son. Please call on me if you just feel a need to talk with a stranger.

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Unfortunately, all time has passed now for options. The hope over the past two years was T-cell therapy and had that option come up, then fundraising would occur as he would have needed to fly to the US or UK where they are trialing the therapy but matching donors are rare, there was a someone in Manchester that could have potentially been a donor but he was not of the right age. Now, the cancer has spread, it is now all focussed on being able to die well. I have a grievance therapy session today, I want to start it before the event so that I am mentally prepared and don’t go off the rails. I’ve also been listening to a few audio books on grief, this keeps me grounded, hearing stories of other’s experiences.

To think, five years ago I was facing a similar premise before I felt I had to; mortality. I’m fairly adept at flicking through the grey colour chart of existence but because of my brain damage, my moods, feelings and emotions can totter on the brink of mania or complete nullification. Add to this, the discomfort and fatigue which makes wrestling with this concept all the more exhausting. I am envious of radios and televisions, so easy to change the channel.

His autism is on the more severe of the sliding scale which has made communication over the years difficult if not sometimes impossible. I need to get to some spiritual or philosophical level with all this. Thank goodness for cats. My kitten came at just the right time. After my cat died last year, and having spent a year and a half away from her, I’d forgotten just how helpful these wee felines are. It makes me think that when Neolithic kind were sitting around the fire, the cats appeared out of the darkness and mewed, do not be afraid we are here to help.

My connection with him, nought to do with his mother or brother, they have their own thoughts to contend with, is one of viscous layers of thoughts and feelings, mine spread over his and his spread over mine, pasted together in a familial sandwich.

Diolch for checking in. I did join the MacMillan forum but from my initial experience of it, it is nowhere as community minded as our one.

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I read recently that cats a psychologically are very close to humans. I have no trouble believing that. They certainly have completely different personalities, like humans and mostly unlike dogs. I hope no one gets upset by that. I love dogs. I’m glad mine moved out with the daughter and grandson, though. Dogs are great and they may be smarter than cats. Because they had figured out how to get anyone to do anything. For them, just by cocking their head at you or laying it on your lap. They are beggars. And mostly helpless.

Cats, however, will figure out how to do do just about anything they want, sort of like raccoon, they’re way pickier, than dogs, about what they eat. Dogs will eat what a cat leaves behind. A cat would never do that. A cat will also try to take care of you, as well.

If they don’t think you’re a good hunter, or maybe just because they love you, they will bring you gifts… occasionally just half the gift. Cats will also ensure you don’t worked too long and hard. If you’ve been on your computer too long, they will crawl across it. So you can’t get to it to tell you.That’s enough. They seem to know just the right time to snuggle you, or just sit and listen without bothering you with their needs or wants. They are generally not loud or rambunctious.Although they do have their moments. My favorite thing about them is if I am sleeping and they are in the bed as well, they don’t steal the covers, move around much in the bed to wake you, or take up the whole bed.

I am Quaker (progressive). I will hold both you and your boy in the light. That is a way of saying, I will pray for your peace, hold you in my heart, send good vibes out to you, and ask the universe to hold you both in it’s wondrous energy which is unchanging.

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Aye, many people forget that it was cats who built the pyramids as this artist impression of archeological evidence shows …

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There are many things I could happily live without. Cats are not among them.

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I certainly have no problem believing that. They might even be gods.

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