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Hello I’m Julie and had undiagnosed stroke 7 years ago. I’ve pleaded begged and cried at doctors A and E and neurologist galore and my GP is just not having it I had a stoke because of non text book symptoms. My whole life changed over a few months. First symptoms was my eye completely loss vision in my right eye and then a few weeks later sudden onset of bladder frequency and absolutely chronic pain in my left butt bones / pelvic that is so bad I could scream. Never mind the depression and the dismissals over and over again from medics. I was 55 and living a normal life and bang all gone. I am 63 now and live alone with nobody except inexperienced carer that comes to heat up food. I am struggling to carry on to be honest. My GP put it down to mental health and wanted to rip her head off and she still stands by this and I know by my brain and body it isn’t and have had no help whatsoever with rehab or meds at all. I’m barely able to go to toilet and get a drink and lay down all day and cry a lot. I dont know where to go for help anymore because my GP has blocked everything. The whole left side of my body is clamped and so painful of which normal pain killers don’t help one bit. Sadly my two adult sons just don’t get it and one of them sort of sees my decline and change of life but miles away and just wants me to move to assisted living near him. I need more care than that but without diagnosis I’m not getting any help at all. GP blocks everything and she didn’t even know me prior to this so has only ever seen me in this mess , I’m finding it harder to get out of bed and can’t attend appointments at doctors and she says I’m not bedbound so says I have to go to the surgery to see her even though she dismisses me all the way. I’m incredibly depressed beyond words and can’t sleep at all. I’ve tried so hard to advocate for myself but have run out of energy and exhausted just being alive. I have 2 adult sons miles away and 5 grandchildren and don’t really see them, my eldest son does come occasionally on his own. All friends gone. Just like a veg really but able to make a drink and heat food but that’s it. Can’t exercise at all so completely flat out all day with nothing to look forward to , it’s hard to be here at all and sometimes well, I wish I wasn’t. Lost my beautiful life at 55 and no treatment due to negligence and dismissed over and over. I am so sad to say the least. I wish I could disappear but don’t want to hurt anyone. Why is the depression and insomnia so bad? Any ideas ? The chronic pain especially my pelvis butt bones is agonising and makes everything else so much harder. I contacted PALS and various others including local MP and nothing , got sick of chasing them so here I am not living and just waiting for ??? Nothing.

I’m sorry it’s so long and so negative I just needed to reach out and see if anyone can offer anything to me to get help. No diagnosis equals no help. All my savings gone that I saved for years to have a happy life later. Not to be and the anger, well that is vile to say the least. I have hatred yes horrible word , for the medical team that ignored me on those fateful days. I’m not sure how long I can carry on as each time I’ve seen private neurologist he insists on writing to my GP which equals deadlocks. What can I do I have no energy left at all. Thanks if you did read or can offer any help at all. Julie xxx much love to all here. I love on Sussex coast all my life.

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Julie, can,t you change your gp? Yours sounds completely useless to the point of being negligent! I,m really sorry you are struggling so much .If I lived near you I would come and visit and give you a big hug! :love_letter::hugs:

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Hello @Julieann , I was going to start by saying that I’m sorry to hear about this and the life that’s been robbed from you by stroke. But sometimes that seems like a platitude when in fact sorry is sometimes it is all we have,

From experience of being sent home and being told my stroke was indeed something else I can see why you are angry and hurt so much- many of us here have good cause to be hurt and get angry it is a natural reaction after all. I know and have said before I’m luckier than others here as still have most function, employment and surrounded by family and friends but at the same time can feel so alone.

Additonaly I help to care for my dad also a stroke sufferer and that can be taxing especially when he tells me “your lucky, your stroke wasn’t as bad as mine” always tell him it’s a contest nobody wants to win now is it? It’s not fair when family are so far away and have built their own very busy live.

I don’t know what the health service is like in Sussex but surely you must have had a MRI to conform your stroke if so I would expect support to be provided and now there is a helpline number here too, have you reached out there they may have some better advice as for what you can do/ expect. One last thing I would like to wish you well and hope you manage to get some more help or support.

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Thank you for replying I have so many symptoms brain and body and pain and at wits end. If I changed Gp they will still send over same notes and feel worried that the new doc will also be biased and I’ll get nowhere yet again. Do you think it’s worth a shot ? The thing is Gp’s aren’t the experts but you have to go through them. I want to strangle my current GP but also afraid to change because of a new one being the same as in read notes then dismiss.

I fed up crying and wish I could disappear the pain is driving me insane in pelvis butt bones on one side and it’s creeping up all over left side more intensely now and I’m scared I’m gonna die because they all keep ignoring me.

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Julesnn, I would still change my GP. You never know,another GP might look at things differently which would be a benefit to you.My heart goes out to you and I wish you all the best.I really do.:love_letter:

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Thank you for replying. I did have MRI but not until a year ago which I paid for. There was some white bits as they say but didn’t confirm a stroke and I didn’t actually speak to anyone as it was out of area and just got a report and the mention of white bits. I sent files to a more local neurologist recently and saw him and he said " I need to write to your GP to see what tests you’ve had already before he decides on what to do. I am deeply concerned for my wellbeing and lack of any life at all. TIA was mentioned but that doesn’t really account for my lack of life and so worried it’s many things. The pain in my butt bones is agonising and this all started at same time. First it was my eye, sent to eye doctor, no MRI , next sudden onset of bladder frequency, sent to urologist , no MRI and the chronic pain , sent to PT, no relief and no MRI. I don’t know what else I can do to push more I’m worn out.

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Thanks again. I guess it is worth a shot I feel time is ticking and decline is getting rapid and the thought of starting again is overwhelming. Wish the pain would stop but not had correct meds for this type of pain.

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I would suggest changing GP as well. At 63 you’re not old, you still have a life to live. Your current GP seems to have consigned you to the scrap heap and that really isn’t fair. You sound like you’re willing to fight for a better life if you only have the support. Find a GP who will help you.

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Hello JulieAnn - firstly, I’d like to say welcome and it’s nice to meet you.

I feel I have to say that because having read your post there is so much going on here, my head is spinning and I am struggling to know where to start as I would like to help you if at all possible. But as I said there is so much going on and it’s hard to know where to begin.

Maybe I can try by asking, if it is at all possible to get your family (sons) to try and help you get you started as you are no longer able to advocate for yourself and I feel you trying to do this on your own is going to tricky, though not impossible. If you can get your family to engage it might help - discuss your situation and come up with a plan.

I would then like to suggest you call NHS 111 - this is a free, 24/7 medical service in England designed for urgent health problems that are not life-threatening. I suggest this because your GP is not able or willing to help you and I don’t know how easy it is to change doctors.

When you ring NHS 111 - focus only on one thing that is bothering you the most right now. . This is important because if you go into too many things they will not be able to focus. You need targeted help and it is best to get started on the one thing that is bothering you the most. I don’t know what that is - you will have to decide, but from what you are saying it might be the chronic pain

I would suggest you need to sort out one thing at a time and if are going to sort out seven years of medical negligence it will not be easy or quick, but first thing is to get you comfortable and to get you some sort of support.

As you live on your own, it may be worth trying to get social services involved? If you are willing to consider this and would like help, we have a member on this forum who is very knowledgeable, a stroke survivor and working as a social worker. His name is David and I will tag him here so he is aware you may wish to seek his help ( @DavidHearnden ) .

Changing your GP may also be necessary and I would also suggest some formal complaints where there have been failings, but I am not sure this is your number one priority.

My suggestion is your whole situation should be reviewed, all issues identified and recorded and then prioritised so they can be addressed.

Having read your post, I am concerned as from what you are saying no one is listening to your helping you from your own family, the GP, PALS and your MP. You are in an extremely difficult place right now.

The Stroke Association has a helpline and you may wish to contact them for more advice and help.

How to contact the Helpline

Call: 0303 3033 100

Email: helpline@stroke.org.uk

I wish you all the best.

Namaste|
Jim
:pray:

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I empathise completely with you having to deal with all this on your own, it sounds like you find everyday a complete torment. I was left with. no support after my stroke, sent home on my own etc…and have never seen a GP, only Advanced Nurse Practitioner/surgery pharmacist (I am in Scotland so may be different up here but might be worth enquiring ) and she was supportive altho couldn’t really offer much direct assistance. It’s hard to know what to suggest but agree you should try to change to another surgery to begin with…surely there must be a pain killer that can deal with the pain…I won’t mention any as I am not a medic but when my late partner had lung cancer he was given some which dealt with his pain…(he was morphine resistant so it wasn’t that). Feel free to vent on here, lots of people with lots of support and advice to offer…big hug x

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There is a lot to unpack here, and as @ManjiB states, a lot going on. I have known people that have struggled with being heard at their surgery and like the roll of the dice, seeing an alternative GP or even changing surgeries, if possible, might prove beneficial. It depends on what you want as the outcome. If it is for pain treatment, then that might be the priority rather than officially diagnosing stroke, but medics take strokes pretty seriously and I imagine they would put you on the standard medication. It is unlikely it was a TIA as they heal within 24hrs, but they are warning signs that a follow-up stroke is possible, so once again, the usual meds are prescribed.

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Hello @Julieann you are being treated so badly.i’m in a similar situation as far as my gp is hopeless and the nursing home the NHS has put me in is too busy making money to offer me real care.like you at my wits end I reached out to the stroke association ,2 wonderful ladies visited me and wrote to the manager of my nursing home and to my ICB.i recommend that you call the stroke association and get some support even if it’s just cathartic.best of luck,I’m thinking of you and hoping for a positive outcome.

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Thank you for all your thoughts. I will definitely change my GP.

Do MRI scans always show a stroke ?

I can’t make my any GP send me for one can I ?

How would I get one without paying privately as I did this before but it was general and I didn’t know what to ask for I just booked on at a private place not knowing what was going on with me.

After reading on here a lot it’s seems with persistence people get some life back to do some things.

I am worried that perhaps I have dementia from the stroke as I’m struggling so badly with everything. I literally can’t do anything at all. My brain and body don’t want to do anything and just standing is hard and I can’t walk around without having to get on the floor to recover. What a mess I am in and so so sad that I’m alone with all this.

If anyone would help me to start a conversation with a new GP that would be great. I am truly exhausted and very very depressed at my situation. It’s not about trying to be happy as those emotions or hormones have gone, I feel no joy at all and can’t sleep and obviously the pain is bad which doesn’t help. All the pain started at same time of eye and bladder so it has to be connected but doctors don’t get it or listen. I am at my wits end.

I will transfer to new GP and see if they can see things different.

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@Julieann - I can see you have already had some excellent advice and feedback regarding your situation. I hope this helps you a little and I am pleased you say you already show signs of positivity as per below :slight_smile:

Why don’t you try this?

Getting someone to advocate for you or be your chaperone can come next, but let’s see if we can fix your immediate problem which is the chronic pain.

There is also an alternative which is to go to see your local pharmacist as they can also help, but I feel the best way forward for you is to call NHS 111.

Wishing you all the best.

With Peace & Love
:victory_hand: & :heart:

This suggests your frame of mind is positive and you are in a position to help yourself as much as you can and that will include getting outside help e.g. from Stroke Association, Citizens Advice, Age UK or similar.

This is a good start and I believe you can build from here. I agree with ManjiB and would suggest this might get you moving in the right direction as this is something you can do immediately - no waiting or appointments required, though you may have to be patient as it can take a while before you actually speak to a medically trained person, but I think it will be worth it.

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@Julieann hi & welcome to the community. Really sorry to read of your situation and the lack of support you appear to be getting.

I agreevre changing your GP if that is possible. You are entitled to a 2nd opinion and you should definitely seek one.

I agree that you should also try tackling one thing at a time. It is difficult to make progress when you try & relay too much to a GP. They have a limited time to spend with each patient and yiu have to make the most of each appointment. I would also try & take someone with you to an appointment so they can help explain / understand.

I wonder if anyone haa ever mentioned FND to you? This is a condition that can cause a myriad of symptoms including stroke like symptoms but it doesn’t show up on a scan. Maybe worth a look. This is just a thought and may not be relevant at all.

Its nit unusual for white patches to show up on an MRI. This is a normal part of aging process. I have them too and was told by my stroke consultant that they would only be concerned if had many many more of them. I think he said 40 or 50 based on my age. I am similar age to you.

I hope you get the help you need soon.

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MRI doesn’t always clearly show a stroke has occurred, but it is the most effective scan for detecting one has happened. Sometimes strokes can occur in places in the brain that are dense or the stroke is tiny. Another caveat, is that if a stroke is detected, it might be a silent stroke and symptoms might be related to another condition which should be addressed as such.

My GP has referred me for multiple MRIs over the years, there is an arduous wait, but I’ve had one every time I have requested for one. More likely, they would probably be more agreeable to opt for a CAT scan as these are less expensive. Once you have a scan, I suspect it needs to be looked at by a neurologist to determine stroke damage.

I know you live alone and have little help but I am thinking about what @Mrs5K said about taking someone with you and if you might have a charity in your area that can advocate for your disability.

When people’s symptoms are presented on the forum, we are all pretty much guessing and speculating, and we can’t provide a diagnosis, only guidance that may help you get back a little more quality of life, and it is a useful space to have a vent and sometimes by writing your thoughts down, they become clearer in your head. So, it’s all quite beneficial.

I would advise not to jump ahead of yourself yet, address the immediate chronic pain in my left butt bones, literally a pain in the arse. I think I can say arse on the forum. :flushed_face: If you pursue an MRI or CAT scan, that will take time, could take six months, could take a year. Who knows. Perchance your condition is not related to a stroke, it is important to work out what is causing it, and although it is useful to rule out stroke, it is also important not to chase a potential red herring all the way down the river only to find there is something else that is fishy upstream and should have been addressed sooner.

Right, reading this says to me that you’ve spent money on an MRI already, so no point in wasting that money because you have a scan already that can be used. White bits on the brain don’t necessarily mean a stroke, they appear with aging, migraines, small vessel disease and as I mentioned before, silent strokes. There is a possibility that you can give your GP the scan data that you had privately and they can forward that to an NHS neurologist to look at, but the NHS neurologist may refuse to look at it, but this might prompt them to book you in for another scan under the NHS.

I’m sure you’ll get to where you want to be, and just by explaining your situation to others will help you make those steps.

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Have you asked your GP to refer you to neuro physio? If not, then I suggest you do. You say you can’t exercise but there are exercises you can do in lying to start with. Things like lifting your arm up when lying are, in effect, removing gravity so it makes it easier to do. Rolling onto your side. Lifting your arms out. Holding your arm out in lying and working it through t he alphabet. There’s lots you can still do even if you’re new to exercise. If you can, and are willing to, pay for physio there are physios who’ll see you on Zoom so you can get help that way without needing to leave home.

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Hello Jim@ManjiB,

I hope you are well; thank you for your response to @julieann. I was reluctant to reply to her sad post of 21/8/26, because I am not as literate as your goodself - and I am pleased you responded so positively: julieann clearly is in a terrible situation, but of course, we are only party to one side of the story.

Best regards,

Bob Isle.

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Bob - thanks for your message.

First a tip, when tagging using the @ symbol, please leave a space before the moniker or profile name otherwise it won’t work as a tag. I hope this makes sense as I don’t know how to word it any better. So when you say Jim@Manji, this doesn’t send me an alert to say you have tagged me. And if I hadn’t chosen to read this message out of personal interest, I would not have known (or been alerted by the system) that you had sent me a note using the tag @ symbol.

So Hello Jim @ManjiB
Or @ManjiB

Or you can reply to my post from here …

And that will also send me an alert.

So this post has been sent to you using the @ symbol i.e. @bob.isle

And I will send you are separate one using the reply as per the graphic and hopefully you will see the difference and then you can decide how you wish to reply to messages.

Before I hit the [Reply] button, let me respond to your comment.


On this forum, we don’t worry about pretty replies or being literate or eloquent or any such thing as a priority (or at least I don’t). What is more important is you sharing something you feel may help the person you are responding to or enrich the quality of responses to the thread or provide some benefit to someone or anyone who is reading your note. Btw, this someone could be you - I often write on here, just for me :slight_smile: If others benefit from it, it’s a bonus.

So I am sure @Julieann will be more than happy for you to provide any pearls of wisdom and if you need to qualify anything, then do so e.g. you wish to say, “This is my opinion/experience and it may or may not work for you”. Or you may wish to say "When I found myself in this situation, I did that etc. etc. etc.)

Whether your response is taken in the way it is meant can be hit and miss sometimes no matter how you meant it. Misunderstandings do happen, emotions do come into play and so we just have to learn to deal with these things. Is someone takes offence to what you say then apologise and move on, or you can simply ignore the response because replying to it can sometimes further antagonise the situation. There is no right or wrong, you just have to do what you think is right and accept you have done your best and with good intentions.

Sir Mon over.

:pray:

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Sent using the [Reply] button and so member bob.isle will get alerted that someone has replied to his message …

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