I am concerned about the notion of 'warrior' especially in the phrase 'stroke warrior'

Warriors attack, assault, tear down and destroy.
They turn their surroundings into a battleground.
Their goal is undoing.
If they build, it is as a staging post, a weapon for further destruction, havoc and demolition.

I would prefer to avoid finding myself in or sharing such a war zone.

Glory or bounty is not my goal.
I have no desire to cultivate anger.

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Often, I’ve seen my stroke(call me crazy) as an evil entity, and if it were a person and I had the strength, I would beat the heck out of him like a warrior. Pure fantasy, I know, but every time I workout (exercise), I feel I am in a battle. In the book ā€œstronger after strokeā€, the author mentions anger( at our condition) as a good incentive to work hard, if the feeling comes up.
BUT…we must be gentle with ourselves as we move through our daily lives.
Like a ā€œStroke Samuraiā€ā€¦how’s that??

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Love the idea of a Stroke Samurai :grin:

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There is a huge charity called ā€œWounded Warriorsā€ for veterans.

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I’m just going to be honest here and say they all just make me cringe.
I never really was one for labels.

I know a few days ago, whatever I was trying to get out at the time in my aphasia group it came out as ā€œstrokersā€ and they seemed to like that word…so that went down well :laughing:

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How about ā€˜Stroke Champion’ as someone who has had a stroke but wants to get better and help others get better?
When I was at work I was given the title ā€˜Print Champion’. That meant I was good with printing issues and was the person who others could call on to help with their print issues.

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Agree with you, hate all the ā€˜labels’, but stroker is the worst. I’m just me, trying to get through one rubbish day after another, calling myself a warrior is just ridiculous, aren’t warriors supposed to win their battles once in a while ?

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This is an interesting subject because it helps to uncover the different ways we see ourselves and the position in which we find ourselves.
I dislike labels but accept that others find them necessary or comforting. So as long as I don’t have to wear them I myself I don’t mind until somebody tries to pin one on me. I cringe at the thought of being a ā€˜warrior’ and as well as suggesting a murderous tribal fighter to me it also makes me think of those eco warrior idiots who glue themselves to bridges and such like. Try as I might I can’t see how that kind of imagery relates to my situation. I have actually tried to think of a suitable decsciptive word but I can’t find one that fits. I’ve considered other oft used words and although I’don’t think of myself as a ā€˜victim’ I suppose I am a ā€˜survivor’ because my stroke didn’t kill me, ā€˜Strokers’ just makes me think of pet owners. I rather like ā€˜Strokies’ because it’s sort of non specific and does have a comedic element to it. I’ll continue my search because there has to be something really amusing and suitable which hasn’t yet occured to me.

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I am inclined to withdraw a little way from the discussion I have initiated here.

. . . but first I will add just an indication of one possible alternative to the angry, disruptive , smash everything, ā€˜fighter’ reaction to our condition. As much as change is sometimes advantageous, staying still can also be productive.

My offering is a creative, forward looking response. It involves quiet, evolving a plan and building, rather than knee jerk smart and fast answers plucked from here and there.

If a thing is worth doing it is worth doing well. It takes time to create a solid edifice, lasting and worthy. Working together with an agreed direction and end can produce such a thing. Chucking together a few random ideas is no foundation for a long term and useful project.

Of course these are only my thoughts, unimportant, maybe better ignored. Perhaps I should not waste space here expressing myself, but I put it to you that I should say what I think openly.

As should you and those others whoever they are joining us on this forum. In this place speaking out should be encouraged, whether we agree or disagree, I strongly believe we should all be able to speak our truth.

Maybe it would be better to not define oneself in terms of stroke. Why strive to be ā€˜a stroke this’ or ā€˜a stroke that’ when without too much effort we can simply be whom we are, not needing to fit into such predefined shackles? Just accepting the freedom and responsibility of dealing with life in one’s own way on one’s own terms?

To those aiming to ā€˜fight the good fight’ I wish you well.

Keep on keepin’ on
:writing_hand: :grinning: :+1:

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It is 11.5°C at 6.45 am
but I must say this before it slips away.

We are not the result of a stroke - we are much more than this.

We will be who we are, come what may.

Keep on keepin’ on
:writing_hand: :laughing: :+1:

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@Bobbi Seen as a state of mind it is certainly more appealing. Zen and the art of Strokism :slightly_smiling_face:

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I prefer a positive, constructive attitude.
Bobbi the Builder, perhaps?

I would like my work tools to be pacific not martial.

Surely that is more than enough from me for now.

Keep on keepin’ on
:writing_hand: :laughing: :+1:

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@Ingo66 The military acronym you mention does actually fit quite well my personal continued state of existence :rofl:

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I think without checking I can work it out. I never thought of that possibility but it’s painted a picture which is not going to go away :rofl:

@SimonInEdinburgh Ok technically it’s only just snow, but it still counts.

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I don’t see the word Warrior as a maurader or destroyer of some kind.
In the USA the Wounded Warrior project is about heroes who came back from war wounded and in need of charity.
I see my departed father as a warrior. He actually did D’Day and Dunkirk…Both.
King’s Own Scottish Borders.
It may not be the best term as you say. Let’s get creative.

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Ive not posted for a while but I think the conversation you’ve opened up is a helpful one. I also dislike the ’ battle’ or " warrior" type language and never use it of myself. These days I rarely describe myself in terms of the stroke that injured me nearly 8 years ago. Of course the effects are ever present and I live with them on a daily basis. Im not interested in being a " fighter" or even a " survivor" although I do acknowledge that these epithets can be useful especially in the early days to keep up one’ s spirits in the tedious and exhausting process of both initial recovery and the coming to terms with what has happened. After 8 years I am reconciled to some extent with things that may not change much now. Not entirely reconciled, as I do maintain some hopes for small improvements or at least the avoidance of degeneration.
I’m glad you raised this topic, as it is definitely worth examining. The language is not to everyone’s taste and indeed for some at some stages may well be unhelpful (I count myself among those for whom it is an unhelpful way of speaking).
So thanks for raising an interesting and important topic. And very best wishes to you
Have a good Christmas when it arrives, and a fruitful New Year
Tony

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I personally don’t mind these monikers we attach to our condition, but I do find the phrase mental health to be problematic as it assumes there is some sort of prevailing mental yardstick for what is considered a healthy mental state.

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@Rups I completely agree. The term ā€˜mental health’ is used too much by medical professionals who really should know better. They throw the term around because it is a way of conveniently sidestepping the fact that they don’t actually understand the condition they are dealing with, but want to sound like they do. It is also used a lot by the police and the media who are fond of referring to someone as having ā€˜Mental Health Issues’. So there the term is used to conveniently describe or even accuse someone who is considered to be potentially dangerous. Then we get tagged with that same term.

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Stroke Thriver is hard to say 5 times fast. a wee bit awkward, but a possibility.
I also like Stroke Rebel, the title of one of my favorite books.

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