The Prediction Machine: The Cerebellum

This post may be only relevant to cerebellar stroke survivors, or not, I don’t know. I’ve been meaning to write a cursory post about a sensation that @Augustus brought up a few posts ago, Start-Stop-Work. In his post he declares, my body literally feels like it is shutting down. This feeling is one that I still have to this day, almost six years on after being blitzed by four strokes to the cerebellum, it is also a sensation a close friend of mine, also a cerebellar stroke survivor, gets and we bring it up in almost every conversation as it is so overwhelming that it makes you feel like your body and brain are going to pack it in, and you’ll just keel over and die on the spot. I initially tried to research this disquieting sensation but found very little evidence of it in medical journals, but science moves ever onwards and thanks to advances in technology, the cerebellum is coming more into focus and it is much easier to trail through the many medical journals using AI, which was in its infancy when I had my stroke.

The cerebellum, once relegated to core motor skills is now considered to be the neural networks primary prediction engine, both in physical and abstract cognitive tasks. This has lead me to what they call prediction error signalling. So, basically, when that horrendous feeling of the brain and body being about to shutdown arises, it is a prediction error signalling mismatch. The brain goes into overload and can’t predict what is happening and the following occurs; protective alarm systems go off and generate an intense feeling of impending failure, high cognitive workloads directly affect the central nervous system and overloads it, altered signals through the autonomic nervous system network can cause that system to suspect system failure when there isn’t actually any threat of it. All of this leads to what neuroscience calls catastrophic interoceptive prediction error.

So, without needing to completely understand or dive deeper into the neuroscience behind it, how can we rehabilitate this? Well, this is what I am still looking into. One method that I have been exploring is the brain reward function.

The brain likes to be rewarded, especially the basal ganglia, and that is the rerouting pathway that should be used because a damaged cerebellum can blunt the reward prediction error coding that would normally let the forebrain know everything is okay. All right, boffin stuff aside, in principle this is quite simple, but how effective it is, I don’t yet know as I have only started practicing it. The technique I am going to focus on is called audio biofeedback and I wrote about it a long time ago here, in 2022. I should have carried on with it back then, but time has allowed neuroscience to study further with it in respect to the cerebellum, and everything is worthy of revisiting. Hindsight is a wonderful thing and all that.

  1. Heart-Rate Sonification Protocol which translates to turning your heart rate into sounds or music. An app I am trialing at the moment is Yudemon HRV and it is free. (The apps I link to are on the Apple App Store, if you use a different operating system, just type the name of the app in whichever App Store you use).
  2. The “Unwind” Ambient Gating System, this is a principle of matching audio biofeedback to brainwaves, now I haven’t tried this as it ain’t cheap. The one I looked at called Flowtime costs £188.00 on Amazon and I haven’t done enough homework on how effective it might be. It translates brain waves into soothing sounds, thus, “If the autonomic nervous system begins spiking into a panic/shutdown zone, the music becomes slightly static or dissonant. The moment the user implements a grounding technique, the audio instantly clears into a crisp ocean sound, providing an immediate neural reward for stabilising the nervous system.”
  3. Rhythmic Entrainment, this is a practical way to reward the cerebellum through binary beats. Beta Waves: 15Hz – 20Hz are ideal for general daily physical tasks, like chores or walking as the brain responds to these sounds when using muscle control and physical movement. Gamma Waves: 30Hz – 40Hz when doing more complex tasks or movements. The exception is Alpha Waves: 8Hz – 12Hz which stimulates the brain through relaxation, if these were used during the aforementioned activities it could cause a prediction error signalling mismatch.

Any-old-hoo, just some food for thought in tackling this rather crippling and distressing sensation of feeling as if the body and brain are going to conk out completely. There is so much to explore here and I think it may be key to rehabilitating many of the curious disabilities incurred after cerebellar stroke. I have no idea if any other survivors with different types of strokes experience this as I’ve only heard it mentioned by cerebellar stroke survivors.

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Yep I get this, in fact got it this morning when went to make a cup of tea. So rest day today…that usually sorts it. I have A fib so would imagine any heart beat would emerge as jazz maybe, which funnily enuf I have started to listen to and enjoy since my cerebellum stroke whereas before, I wasn’t bothered, curious eh. I do a lot of complicated fairisle knitting which involves reading patterns and translating it through yer fingers to the design, (I design a lot of my own as well) I feel if I spend all day at it my brain feels like it’s fizzing the next day…happy neurons at being given such a workout or are they protesting??? Look forward to hearing more about this.

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Good work Rupert - looks like you are making progress.
In this game, I think that is what it’s about and yes, sometimes after taking two steps forward you may take one step back, but regardless it is progress towards the ultimate goal. The key is to keep going, which you clearly are, so well done you :clap:

There was a time when Sundays were rest days period.

Main thing is they are happy :slight_smile:

:pray:

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What is spurring me on at the moment is my good friend, also cerebellar stroke survivor, who may have had a second cerebellar stroke. He is in a bad place at the moment and this has encouraged me to get my skates on a bit and get to the bottom of some of these cerebellar stroke syndrome anomalies. I’m much more lazy when it comes to myself, but if prompted to help a friend, it gives me the impetus to surge forward and, hopefully, benefit myself along the way. I guess it is the old teaching ethos I used; I always saw a teacher as a student who learnt by teaching others.

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He’s new to me….thankyou very much….just put them into my Deezer….marked them as fav….will explore further….listening to link as I type…v good!!!

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Oh, if you are subscribed to Deezer, my album Top of the Apoplexy has just recently dropped on Deezer over the past week, so you can listen to the whole album if you like.

Got it on play this morning…I think I am marked as 1 fan now….number one fan girl…great to be in at the beginning ha ha….so brilliant! Particularly caught by “trouble behind closed doors” cos that’s just what’s it’s like…(also respect to my bed!) but hey it’s not fixated on stroke and a lovely listen for its lyrics, beats and sounds. I am no good at music reviews but I LOVE IT!!!

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Diolch yn fawr, I am thrilled to have two fans now, yourself and the one in my bedroom I’ve been using over this heatwave … sigh … it’s a bit of a groaner but can’t help it. :blush:

Croeso!!! (I googled that so don’t ask me to pronounce it LOL) keep up the good work, more fans along soon I am sure

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I wanted to add some extra information to this post in respect to dysmetria of thought, Jeremy D. Schmahmann is a professor of neurology at the Harvard Medical school, he is also an expert on ataxia, and he coined the term: Cerebellar cognitive affective syndrome or CCAS and it is relevant to all those who have had a cerebellar stroke.

“In the same way that the cerebellum regulates the rate, rhythm, force and accuracy of movements, so does it regulate the speed, consistency, capacity, and appropriateness of mental and cognitive processes … Dysmetria of movement is matched, in the cognitive realm, by an unpredictability and illogic to social and societal interaction. The overshoot and inability in the motor system to check parameters of movement are equated with a mismatch between reality and perceived reality, and erratic attempts to correct errors of thought and behavior.” - Jeremy D. Schmahmann.

Rather than thinking in terms of left and right brain, for a cerebellar stroke survivor it is more applicable to think of the brain as up brain and down brain. :brain: This dysmetria of thought affects how prediction error signalling can mismatch responses, behaviour and thought processes and the consequence of catastrophic interoceptive prediction error, but that is only the tip of the iceberg.

Here are just some of things to be expected with CCAS as described by Schmahmann; a neuropsychiatric of the cerebellum that is attributed to attentional control, emotional control, autism spectrum, psychosis spectrum, and social skill set; that is not having a sense of personal boundary or personal space.

The effect of dysmetria of thought with the above is that each one may be too much or too little; a constant rhythm of either overshooting or undershooting.

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I tink the whole stroke thing is the tip of the iceberg, and it should not be confused with the lettuce!

:pray:

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Lettuce agree to that one, you little gem you :wink:

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Rupert - I like this - it’s growing on me.

Unless I am mistaken, the links to the videos you post on here don’t come with adverts. I’m pretty sure I’ve never seen an ad with any of your posts, but I may have missed some?
Have you found a way to disable the ads or are you a YouTube premium member?

:pray:

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I have no idea, I generally try to choose videos that don’t have a beginning advert. I assume that’s the choice of the uploader. I am not a premium member of any platform if I can avoid it. When I first dialled onto the net back in 1989 or thereabouts, it was all free.

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You dialled onto the net back in 1989?

My goodness, that was way back when it was just beginning?
Seems like you are truly an early adapter of technolgy.
From this, I can imagine you might have had some sort of game computers e.g. commodore something or other, and possibly an Amstrad?

I recall one of my friends signed up to dial-up with BT (it was only BT at the time I think) and he was paying (what I thought was) a ridiculous £25 a month. He truly was an early adopter and his reason for doing this was … to play online games. I can’t tell you what they were but they were interactive and he used to play against another friend who was playing from his home in the Neytherlands! I found this fascinating but it was not something I took up as it was beyond my budget and also, I preferred the old fashioned games such as table tennis, snooker or chess.

Hoe times have changed :slight_smile:

After I sent you the previous message, I tried to find out if it was possible to share “ad-free” and of course I should have realised there is no such thing as a “free lunch” and so I have given up on my foolish notion!

Lettuce enjoy it while we can, four who nose how long we will have access to these things?

:pray:

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That was all down to my father and one of the benefits of working for the government as a technician; he used an Atari 1040ST. He used to build his own computers and was always quick to adopt new technology, I recall when he arrived home with this brick thing with a keypad and thick antenna sticking out the top. I took it around to a friend’s house and stood outside my friend’s door. I dialled his landline number and asked him if I could come around and visit, he said yes, as soon as he hung up, I knocked on the door, the look on his face was priceless.

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So, I am going to start posting on here some techniques for rehabilitating dysmetria of thought, they are going to be pretty basic and less ambitious than audio-biofeedback and the reward function. The first is called “Stop-Relax-Refocus”. You can use this technique when switching between tasks, it works by lowering neurological arousal and switch the brain from an emotional state to a cognitive one. So how do you do it?

When you are working on a task; it might be making the bed, making a sandwich, writing a post on the forum, talking to someone on the phone, before you switch to another activity, close your eyes and say aloud stop, take a deep breath for about five seconds and then blow out with your lips pursed for about five seconds. Open your eyes and turn your attention on the next task or resume the task at hand if you feel emotionally overloaded. Even if you don’t feel emotionally overloaded by a task, this is beneficial to do because it trains the brain (more specifically, the notorious amygdala) from commandeering your neural resources.

Next post will be another executive function rehabilitation exercise. Just a note on saying the word stop aloud, this is useful because it engages the auditory cortex and makes it more difficult for the brain to interrupt the reset as brains seem to have a mind of their own: funny that.

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Do you think this might work when I first wake up rather than tasking? I am gonna give it a go…I find that I get most anxious when I wake up and stay lying in my bed…I begin to feel quite dismal with racing thoughts etc…I find if I get up and do something the anxiety subsides…this annoys me cos “Winter is Coming” as Ned Stark would say and I want to stay cosied up as long as possible. Stop! :raised_hand: refocus :backhand_index_pointing_right:

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It depends on the individual, I will be posting other related techniques. The key is how your brain responds to the stimulus. I do practice controlled breathing techniques at night, but there is a moment when I am holding my breath that I can get a twinge of anxiety.