Statins

Hi all, I’ve just had a call from my GP surgery to say that they want me to try Statins. I stopped everything else, like Clopidogrel when I spoke to a specialist who said it would only give a few percentages extra safety, but seeing as they affected me so much, stopping them was the best thing for me. I monitor food, weight, blood pressure etc and since my accidents 40 odd years ago, have taken so many types of tablets that my stomach doesn’t want the stuff any more. I was diagnosed with dyspepsia the other year and mange to control that with over the counter mixtures as it is so severe. Now my GP pharmacist contacts me today to try what I thought she said was - Astormastin, but it must be Atorvastatin?? She said ‘no side effects’ but reading stuff on here, I think that’s not true. I send in blood pressure etc to surgery regularly and I’ve just got my stomach etc on an even keel so that i can actually go out for a full day without signposting toilets etc! I don’t want things to get aggravated again, so if anyone has advice, I’m all ears. My stroke was found in 2017 but was an old stroke dated from a car crash 40 odd years ago in which I nearly died. Cheers.

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Bert,

I had a nightmare when I tried statins years ago… I tried 3x for a week, and was sick by the end. I really rejected them, then I researched them, and the more I discovered, the more I realised I did a good thing to reject them.

I know there will be a counter-argument, but that’s my experience with them, and I’d seriously recommend reading a few stories & doing your own thorough research before just accepting them. Big pharma really does want as many on board as possible

Good luck, Roland

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I believe this forum has bucket loads of statin chat, I guess it all depends on why they want you to take them? If your stroke was a result of a car accident, it doesn’t quite fit the profile of high cholesterol. I was put on statins, even though my cholesterol was not high, and have since agreed with my GP that I can start to ween myself off them. My stroke was trauma related and not lifestyle, but was still given the bog standard hospital take-home kit. There are other ways to keep cholesterol down, much like anyone might need to do, stroke survivor or not.

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Did your gp not say exactly why they want you on statins and give you all the pros and cons?
If not then they need to give you a good reason why, before you start taking them.
Then you can make a more informed decision.

I’m on Atorvastatin, was on it long before my stroke. I’ve not experienced any issues with it but others have.

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Hi Roland,
That 's exactly what my wife and I thought. A new pharmacist is now within the GP surgery. I did explain that I don’t want to take things as my body is currently okay and I’m doing alright physically, but she insisted they had no side effects. I will contact and decline the offer I think… thanks for the advice, regards John aka Bert

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Cheers Rups,
The call came out of the blue this morning - they’d contacted me with an appt for Thursday 13th June, not today - so it didn’t start well anyway, with them getting the wrong date!
I will ‘thank but no thanks’ as I don’t want to upset my stomach etc now that it seems okay. She said my Cholesterol was low (4.4) blood pressure fine, and so I don’t understand why they want me to take them… Take care, John

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So are you saying it was you pharmacist who advised you?

Hi @EmeraldEyes , no, not really - she said Cholesterol and blood pressure was okay - it’s me that sends the blood pressures in on an A4 sheet for my file, so I don’t think I will take them and will have to get back in touch with GP surgery. Take care, John aka Bert

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Yes, apparently there is a new ‘pharmacist’ within the surgery, don’t know why, but she shouldn’t have called for another few weeks anyway, she’d already booked 13th June, so we’ll see. I’ve got appt with Doctor next week so will discuss with her. Take care, John

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I’d find out why they want 6ou to take them and go from there. There are pros & cons to all meds and aome people will get side effects & others won’t.

You just need to weigh up the pros & cons for you & make a decision from there.

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Hi Ann (with an ‘e’ - sorry, couldn’t remember;-)) it’s been a while since I was on here, I will have a chat to the GP first I think and take it from there, I’m doing okay at the moment and don’t want to upset things.
Take care, John

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Hi John…you were right Ann without an E :grin:

I don’t blame you for not wanting to upset your system if all going smoothly.

Hopefully the GP can explain the reason.

Take care

Ann

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Hi @Bert
You’re right that the probable subject of the conversation was a atorvastatin.
It’s widely prescribed in the UK apparently because it’s reputedly cheapest and it is much longer lingering in your system than some - 20 to 30 hours compared with six hours.

There’s at least one school of thought that believes the pharmaceutical industry is entirely funded by unnecessary statin prescriptions. There is another that points out that lipids are vital for the correct operation of many systemic processes in the body. See thincs.org

It’s a post stroke standard whether you had a ischaemic or hemorrhagic because some strokes have a NON HDL risk factor. high density lipids (good cholesterol) moves other cholesterol out of the body to the liver. non-HDL (‘bad’ in excess) can fur-up aterial blood vessels (Atherosclerosis) with all sorts of consequences and one of which is ischemic stroke.

Let us know how your conversations with those who are supposed to be able to evaluate and explain goes :slight_smile:

Caio
Simon

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Hi Simon,
Thanks for your reply, it’s really appreciated as is everyone else’s.
I will keep you all updated :+1:
Take care, Bert.

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My GP pharmacist phoned me a few months ago suggesting I required statins, as I was at work I just said ok and an appointment was made. Later that same day they called me back stating that my GP said I wasn’t allowed to take it… I’m nearly 3 yrs post stroke & have other medical issues that they have no answers for since my stroke.

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Thanks Michelle, it’s all very confusing isn’t it? I’m going to wait now until Tuesday and speak to GP and take it from there - as if we don’t have enough to contend with😩

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Hi Simon,
Just been on the thincs.org site - very interesting, thanks for taking the time to message me on here - really appreciated. :+1: take care, John aka Bert

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Hi all, firstly, thanks for the advice and support, it’s been really appreciated.
As for the statins, I’ve spoken to my GP today and told her that I have looked into the side effects of the Atorvastatin and have decided not to take them. She checked up on my cholesterol and said that she would check it again in 6 months. I said I was happy to manage things myself as I’ve done for many years and she was okay with that, so I will return the statins to the pharmacy tomorrow. These decisions are very difficult to take and consider and have given my wife and family a lot of worry again (do I/don’t I?) and are not taken lightly, but for me personally, my stroke was caused by an accident 46 years ago and no-one knew, so I feel I can manage my own medications/exercise/food etc as I’ve always done to keep relatively healthy, so this isn’t for everyone and please keep taking your meds! I just wanted to let you all know my result with the GP. Take care, John

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I take rosuvastatin which i and my husband find great,its more expensive but no side affects try to persuade your doctor to give you that

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Hi @sandraplaskow, thanks for the advice, I will keep that in mind for the future.

Take care, John

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