Our happy family is about to become a broken family

Hi,

My wife and I met in 2001. We had many great early years together travelling the world, and one day settled down and bought a house together and started a family. We always got on well with each other with few arguments and a generally calm and peaceful household. I started a business ands things were going well. After 20 years together i decided to propose to her, which she accepted. We then had a stressful period of buying out my business partner, and that gave my wife silent migraines where she saw lights but no pain. It was then discovered after her GP referred her for an mri scan that she had scarring on her frontal lobe left Side. She’d had a mild stoke at some point. After that she has taken half an aspirin every day since. She has only had the same experience of lights twice since in 6 years.

After that we got married. It was delayed because of Covid.

We thought everything was fine and got on with life. We had ups and downs like any young families. She got a new job that she loved more than anything. one day a few days after our fourth wedding anniversary last year after an argument about nothing, all of a sudden it was like a switch had gone off in her and she told me she didn’t love me anymore and wanted to leave me.

I was shocked and distraught and wanted to understand how this just came out of the blue. I looked back through photos and messages, and slowly realised that since we have been married there was a slow decline in her interest in doing things with me, texting me less. It was subtle and didn’t think much of it at the time although I did at the time ask her a couple of times and she told me it’s the stress of work and everything was fine and she loved me more than anything.
But since the ā€˜switch’ went, she tells me she is emotionally numb and that she is a different person now, and wants to be alone and independent.

She has lost all motivation to go running, eat healthy and generally do anything as a family.

Her emotional attachment was very secure but now she appears avoidant. Cold and distant. It’s hard at home keeping things normal whilst the kids are seemingly unaware.

She behaves normally around family friends and work.

We have had a very stable calm and loving family home with 2 great boys. 12 and 15. The eldest is starting his mock exams soon and is doing really well. We are so proud of them both. But now all of a sudden she is prepared to break it all apart without wanting to try and resolve it. And potentially upsetting his exams too.

Then recently I had a sudden realisation that decline was all since the stroke and I started to look into it.

I came across post stroke apathy and that after 5 years it can increase 10%.

Her part of the brain affected was white matter that means apathy can come on slowly.

I tried to carefully talk to her about it but she is sure that it is nothing to do with it and that it’s not apathy.

But the more I read about it and the part of the brain it affected, the more I am convinced.

We are close to telling the boys we are divorcing and I really don’t want to do it especially close to his mock exams.

So I desperately pleaded that she at least speak to a GP and see if she can be referred so they can look into it.

She has agreed to give them a call and I have left it with her.

am I right to try and pursue this with a chance of getting it diagnosed and treated, or should I just accept her feelings and prepare to move on?

It’s so hard as a feel I can’t blame her for this and want to save our family.

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@Toolboy I am so sorry you are in this situation and want you to know that you will soon get a reply form other members who have more experienced. Stroke is a life changing event though it might feel slight at the time. Also every stroke is different You are doing the right thing to contact our group and we can give you some help

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I can’t give relationship advice as I fret about the relationship I have with my cat. However, as a divorcee and also living separately with my current partner, we have a jolly twelve year old between us. The only thing I can say is try living separately. Absence makes the heart grow fonder and all that. Both me and my partner, or partner and I, have both had strokes but we’ve come to a convenient compromise that has been working for the last three years, we’ve been together in total for nearly twenty years.

As for it being stroke related. I think that is by the by. One can only guess if such a predicament is stroke related or some such personal decision. I would tread lightly on claiming brain damage for how someone feels as sometimes it might be and sometimes it isn’t.

My two pence.

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I’m very sorry to hear that you’re in such a difficult position, @Toolboy . I’m possibly the least qualified person to give relationship advice but I do see a problem here. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with encouraging your wife to find out how her stroke might (or might not) have affected her attitude to your relationship, but I doubt that the diagnosis will be the thing to rescue your marriage. If the stroke was several years ago she has already done much of her healing, but injuries leave scars, visible or not, and some of them change us. The stroke is part of the person she is now and you must try to love her as she is. It’s a tragedy if she can’t return that love but doctors won’t be able to change that.

I very much hope that I’m wrong, but I think you might just have to accept what is happening and think about how to part in a way that burns no bridges and retains as much stability as possible for your boys.

My best wishes to you and your family. I hope it works out for you all.

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'@Toolboy, Welcome to the community, I am stroke survivor an my emotions were affected by my stroke and still are, but I deal with it. I couldn’t cry and still cant, I didn’t give a f**k and I was never like that before, but I am from a solid relationship. I get no pressure from my wife, If I was receiving the pressure you are putting on your wife I would want to be on my own as well. The only person who understands me is another stroke survivor, no able bodied, healthy person has a clue. Don’t push her or you will lose her forever. I don’t make her feel like its her fault for all of this as its you who is putting the pressure on, so if your sons exams do not go well, its your fault. I was always honest with my children, I don’t pretend everything id okay cause when you do tell them it will be like a bombshell. My children are all grow up now and turned out caring loving adults, They have been through divorce and many other things in life and they coped with it all. Maybe that’s why they are such well adjusted adults. I wish you and you family well :revolving_hearts: Like after stroke is s**t

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@Toolboy ,OMG :open_mouth: sorry to hear that. It sounds like your both having a tough time. I hope your wife changes her mind and helps you cope with your stroke. I’m not in any relationship so I can’t comment. Try and seek marriage counseling. Also, talk to friends and relatives about the situation. Sooner or later, everything will come out. Best to do so ASAP.

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@IreneFC , I don’t blame you for thinking that. Sounds like you are still having a hard time. You’ve given better advice than I could give. I’m not married, no kids no wife/girlfriend. It shows stokes of any kind can ruin more than your health.

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@Toolboy hi & welcome to the community. Sorry to hear of all that you are going through. Without knowing you & your wife it is difficult to comment however I agree with @harimanjaro i am not sure having a diagnosis will change anything as the only thing that alters is you have a name for it.

Stroke can change how people feel but so can life in general. As we move through our lives we change as people and sometimes that means we grow away from our partners.

I think if it was me I would try & accept what she is saying and find a way through it that causes the kids the least amount of upheaval. Some time apart may just make your wife realise that she has got it wrong but if it doesn’t then you know it is the right thing to do.

I don’t blame you for looking for answers but sometimes there aren’t any.

I wish you and your family lots of strength as you move forward.

Ann

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Hello @Toolboy - welcome to the community.

It seems you are going through a difficult time and seeking guidance.

I am not at all an expert in relationships or indeed anything other than being a carer and even then I would hesitate to euse the word expert.

What can I offer you in terms of advice or guidance? Sadly very little as having read your post, there is much I am unable to get my head around and I am aware relationships (marriages) can be notoriously difficult and in this day and age they seem to break down more often than they perhaps used to but I stand to be corrected on that.

Right now, I feel I would need to analyse the information a lot more to try to be able to form an opinion on what might or might not be happening. Regrettably as much as I’d like to, I am unable to do so right now.

If I may, I would like to ask you a few questions which may help you.

  1. Have you sat down with your wife to discuss the relationship?
  2. Have you had any [relationship] counselling?
  3. Is the information you shared with us your own views/thoughts/observations?
  4. How would your wife respond to the things you mention?

If you feel you can’t blame her, what is it that makes you thing the family needs saving?
In this day and age, or indeed any day and age, is it not possible to ā€œagree to disagreeā€ and remain amicable?

It may not be ideal and I appreciate it’s not what you want, but what if you do go ahead with the divorce but agree to remain on friendly terms. Or how about having a trial separation to see if this works and ā€œsavesā€ the family.

For me the above is the most interesting part of this post. If she is behaving normally around family, friends and work then the family is not necessarily broken or is it?

I can’t remember the exact wording, but I believe there is a phrase that goes something like
ā€œIf you love someone, then set them freeā€ or something like that. Maybe you might want to consider this. As hard as it may seem right now, if you love your life, but she wants to be alone and independent, maybe you could let her do that or maybe you can do a trial separation?

I wish you all the best.

Namaste|
:pray:

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Hi @Toolboy

Welcome to the community, I’m sorry to hear what you’re going through right now. It’s hard to think of a relationship breaking down after such a long time. I hope the responses here have been helpful for you. I would tend to agree with what others have said that maybe time and space is what is needed for you both to be able to gain some perspective.

I hope things will work out for your family and you find a solution that works for everyone.

If you need anything whilst you’re using the Online Community, please don’t hesitate to tag me using the @ symbol and my usnername.

Anna

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