Sounds like all going well in Montegrotto. Enjoy the rest of your trip & perhaps bring some of the sun back to the UK with you 
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I don’t use such language in a language that I use regularly !
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Just irregularly ?
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Oh aye, I did translate and that’s why I was flummoxed. 
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Brilliant idea Roland, just no crack the neck 
We don’t want you risking another stroke 
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Aye, neck manipulation is one of the main causes of cerebellar stroke. Indeed, mine was from neck cracking, moving my neck and spine in a potential harmful rotation which caused a dissection, thrombosis and then ischemic stroke. Exactly as the NCBI excerpt describes.
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I used to love that part of manipulation because it helped loosen up the neck and upper back so much. But I stopped my osteo doing when i learnt of the risk😬 Osteopath’s are still good to go to otherwise, just not for that.
Heck just a good back once a week for say 6 weeks would probably do wonders for improving mobility.
Love the new look for your avatar by the way
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Ah yes, good point Emerald,
I had 3 or 4 good experiences with an osteo about 15 years ago. One was creepy, and I was a bit nervous, but her assistant was a wiz and very warm personality ; a bit of T2 or T3 manipulation. I remember hearing about the small chance of a broken neck after visiting the osteopath. What I am working on is what I call the X-frame. Hips cross stretched with shoulders ; also there are other X-frame stretches that I am doing producing clicks and realignments. I am making tremendous progress ; not so much my condition which remains the same, but my being able to address and relieve my tightness and spasms. All thx to literature read and listening to my body with an open mind.
I still crave a tightly knit whatsapp group that specifically targets rehab… I’m not against humour etc, but would like a little more than chit-chat…
Thx for your warnings, as usual, ciao from Sunny Italy, Roland
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Thx for warning Rups,
I aim to stay away from C vertebrae ; was thinking T vertebrae ; and possibly skip the entire process after your warning. Though I would like an assessment on how misaligned or not is my spine ? Call it curiosity ? The waitress that had you flummoxed would love to hear my story, apparently. She can’t imagine what happened but is drawn to it. Probably because watching me walk is akin to watching a zombie walk, or worse ; I walk with -100 % efficiency,
greetings and good wishes, Roland
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I’m all for collaborating Simon,
I just crave a tightly-knit group that shares real-life live rehab tips. Not adverse to jokes, but chit-chat I’d rather do it live with friends. Of course everyone here is a friend ; but I believe muscles and nerves (somatosensory challenges) are my area of need and expertise (to a degree). So many things I know now that I wish I had known 1 year ago… of course we’d all agree to that, no doubt…
ciao, ciao, Roland
ps. brick can swim better by now … whoopie
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I hear forecast is looking up for after I return !! Here it’s full-Summer… a shock really
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Bore da Pando, nay it’s not a warning just an affirmation that it is one of the causes of cerebellar stroke, which is extremely rare. Yoga, washing hair at the salon, reversing the car, have all been attributed to cerebellar stroke cases. When I think about gymnasts, wrestlers, boxers, bungee jumpers, dancers … I oft think about the type of stroke I had and why it is so rare. So, don’t let it be an aversion to what you want to achieve, I would say most osteopaths know what they are doing, and you will be in capable hands.
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Morning, I hear you Rups, @Rups
but I do have a close friend, who is a Radiologist, and he has always affirmed that they see several spinal cases from osteopaths on a semi-regular basis, too!. So I am not talking about jumping into adjustments, but I would like something on the level of an informative check-up…My latest breakthroughs are to do with the X-frame as I call it ; the framework between hips and shoulders ; and understanding and managing the many spasms and hypertone my stroke side endures (goes from flaccid to hyper). My spine gets pushed around far too much…
ciao, ciao, Roland
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Was thinking to have a look at Thoracic vertebrae rather than Cervical. Will see what my Chinese and Radiologist and Physio say.
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Hi there am so glad you’re enjoying your holiday. I would definitely be up for such sessions. Please let me know if you start them up. I did go to an osteopath and although painful, it really helped. Venice is fab . Enjoy love suzywong
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Thanks Suzy,
my wife and I and her family have joined us (or is it the other way around?) at a spa in montegrotto, called Hotel delle Nazioni.The water is good ; skin feels smooth because hot water from source is 35 degrees, and trace elements of bromine / iodine / sulphurous and chloride… a famous location / spa region for 1000s of years.
I am curious about what osteopath did with you. I have heard some good experiences after stroke. Are you referring to the rehab whatsapp group I was thinking of starting ?
Venice (yet again) for another year, for sure, ciao, Roland
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Can’t stand noise. Really gets to me. Especially when grandchildren are around. But I can put up with that.
Take care.
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Brilliant news Pando on to the next dot to be joined up in your brain. Currently reading a book called Stronger After Stroke by Peter G Levine and American Stroke Specialist. Only 11 pages in and have gotten more information on the after effects of stroke than i thought possible I now know why walking exhausts me and why i must persist with it at all costs the author can be bit brutal at times but he goes on to explain how recovery can be improved with a plan but it will be exhausting, reckon many of you have found that out for yourselves, bought on ebay for a few quid and it’s worth a read have finally gotten a follow up appointment with the local stroke clinic some 3 months after the event, bought the book because i was floundering with lack of information i should be getting from them after care id almost nil where I live until now.
without doubt this is the hardest thing i’ve ever had to deal with physically and mentally and very scary as well.
Hop you all continue to have ureka moments along the recovery road, want access to a static bike and treadmill, so going to local gym, only problem is it exhausts me just getting there.
Regards all
wattsy
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You got me curious about this book I’ve heard so much about so I’ve bought it. At 3 months post stroke I could barely read a line of text let alone 11 pages or whole book, so I envy you that. I think of all my deficits, reading was the longest and hardest to recover for me. Though I can get through a book in a couple of days now
Stock up on body’s fuel an hour before you go to the gym, take plenty of water and have a bit of chocolate or a protein bar at the end to get you back home again 
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